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when i was canvassing in virginia and i was maybe the fourth person going columbus list and i was asking whether people thought it would vote in the morning or the afternoon, i knew i was carrying and does what he recommended. you never heard me talk about women candidates and i'm so excited about the women were coming in. to be the senator from north dakota and she is a fabulous person. emily's list supports women for congress and it wahasa one loss record. if you compare how much they raised and spent with the success compared to some of the suepr pac's, they did a heck of a lot better job. >> who were the losers? >> the billionaires handing over all that money. >> they got shelly in nevada. >> that's unfortunate. >> they did not get what they thought they were be buying of. >> the biggest loser is carl rove -- karl rove. he would let them keep even more, a fairly bottom line decision. a lot of money was spent. ben bernanke was the second stimulus. the supreme court acted as the second stimulus, second only to the fed, because opening the door to that kind of private spending, the supr
when i was canvassing in virginia and i was maybe the fourth person going columbus list and i was asking whether people thought it would vote in the morning or the afternoon, i knew i was carrying and does what he recommended. you never heard me talk about women candidates and i'm so excited about the women were coming in. to be the senator from north dakota and she is a fabulous person. emily's list supports women for congress and it wahasa one loss record. if you compare how much they raised...
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we're in columbus, ohio. just hours away from election day. it is cold here, but people are hot, they're ready to go. "outfront" tonight, robert gibbs from the obama campaign and florida senator and romney supporter, marco rubio. why it all comes down to this state. plus, the man who's being called the most important person in this election. he joins me live and an "outfront" investigation into the never ending gas lines in the northeast following sandy. the gas lines didn't have to happen. something could have been done to prevent them, so why wasn't it? let's go "outfront." tonight, dead heat. election day is just five hours away and the candidates are using every last minute they've got. our latest cnn poll of polls today shows president obama ahead by one point. 49 to 48 for mitt romney and it could all come down to this state where i am tonight. ohio. both campaigns made stops here today. mitt romney's campaign just announced he will make a stop here tomorrow as well. now, each man spent the day crisscrossing the united states, trying to
we're in columbus, ohio. just hours away from election day. it is cold here, but people are hot, they're ready to go. "outfront" tonight, robert gibbs from the obama campaign and florida senator and romney supporter, marco rubio. why it all comes down to this state. plus, the man who's being called the most important person in this election. he joins me live and an "outfront" investigation into the never ending gas lines in the northeast following sandy. the gas lines didn't...
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hill you may have see the recent article 15 most over redid route -- white people from columbus, ronald reagan and is shakespeare. the only worse speaking those words than a black person and stepping out of line. stay q4 stepping up four per cent volume a. is a beef and near if it was not so wrong. liberty is meaningless and it is not just a freedom of speech i will leave you with this the most accurate comment about her current book came from "the american spectator", "mugged" is not just a book but a public service. i agree wholeheartedly. and colder is a public service and i would take that over commander -- a community organizer and a day. please join me to welcome ann coulter 55. [cheers and applause] >> i hope this isn't like the chris christie speech. i did briefly a runoff with a biker buy came back. i am who paid by introduction is not longer than my speech because i will try something new. are worked very hard i write them out and rearrange them to make sure there are enough jokes and then memorize them and 1/2 no speech for this. but i wrote the book. so i know how it goes. [
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downtown, columbus, ohio. this is the state that could be the place where the next president of the united states is decided. and we have crews everywhere. we want to tell you first off, though, president barack obama and his challenger mitt romney have no space in their schedules today, and why should they? i want you to look at the number on the bottom of your screen. it says, two days. two days is what's left before the election in america. the two candidates and their camps are all over america today. president obama a at functions from new hampshire to colorado, while mitt romney is keeping his attention focused on states further east. they're working late, too. one of the president's events is at 10:30 tonight in aurora, colorado. that is mitt romney and his wife ann at an energetic gop rally this afternoon. that's in cleveland, ohio. he told supporters a slogan used by the president four years ago better applies to him this time around. >> if you believe we can do better, if you believe america should b
downtown, columbus, ohio. this is the state that could be the place where the next president of the united states is decided. and we have crews everywhere. we want to tell you first off, though, president barack obama and his challenger mitt romney have no space in their schedules today, and why should they? i want you to look at the number on the bottom of your screen. it says, two days. two days is what's left before the election in america. the two candidates and their camps are all over...
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and steve brown is live in columbus. the president is a proponent of early voting. >> as of friday 1.6 million oh ohioans one in five registered voters in the buckeye state. early voting continued throughout weekend and that number is this going to grow and in franklin county which includes the city of columbus, folks trying to early vote today were in for a pretty long wait. >> i wanted to try to beat the lines, but we couldn't, but we're in another line here. >> you didn't expect this. no, i didn't. pretty crazy. >> i've been waiting for probably about 45 minutes so not too long. >> reporter: and paper absentee ballots are pouring in and will continue to do so. the number of early votes may reach as much as 2 million when it's said and done, shep and this favors the obama campaign, something that both sides agree on. >> shepard: shep, how is the romney camp drivers supporters to the poll? >> well, there's the efforts that the campaign itself is undergoing, but we found out a lot of stuff going on in the state of ohio t
and steve brown is live in columbus. the president is a proponent of early voting. >> as of friday 1.6 million oh ohioans one in five registered voters in the buckeye state. early voting continued throughout weekend and that number is this going to grow and in franklin county which includes the city of columbus, folks trying to early vote today were in for a pretty long wait. >> i wanted to try to beat the lines, but we couldn't, but we're in another line here. >> you didn't...
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., columbus ohio and conclude the day in new hampshire. president obama also on the trail tomorrow in the madison, wisconsin and columbus ohio. then he will be in des moines, iowa. look for coverage here at c- span.org. back to the live shot of mourners still, pennsylvania. part of the election weekend coverage here on c-span. we will continue to watch the governor as he shakes hands and makes his way through the crowd. richard, democratic calller in new york. caller: good evening. thank you for taking my call, and thank you for c-span. mr. romney does not have a clue. he should have lost in 2012 to rick santorum. however, he is flip-floping every issue from the primaries. american people have some of the brightest minds. why don't they see he is a fraud? america is not for sale. >> i take your voting for president obama. host: republican calller. william, north carolina. caller: i was going to vote for obama, but i am real religious, and i do not agree with the same-sex marriage. the unemployment has gone up. i've been out of a job for tw
., columbus ohio and conclude the day in new hampshire. president obama also on the trail tomorrow in the madison, wisconsin and columbus ohio. then he will be in des moines, iowa. look for coverage here at c- span.org. back to the live shot of mourners still, pennsylvania. part of the election weekend coverage here on c-span. we will continue to watch the governor as he shakes hands and makes his way through the crowd. richard, democratic calller in new york. caller: good evening. thank you...
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he's here with me and the state capital of columbus. john avalon, senior political columnist with "newsweek", the daily beast. rayhan salaam and gloria borger. first we're going to tackle the smarts or not of election day behavior for both men and then we'll tackle when we're going to know and who tonight. that's the gig. and the winner gets a million dollars or mitt romney bet 10,000 in something. governor strickland, today, the decision of mitt romney to go out. he's the challenger. so it would make sense. the president, though, did some interviews, but decided to stay home and play basketball. is that good optics or bad optics? >> i think the president may have touched more people through his calls if the concern is how many voters can you reach during this last few hours of the campaign. but, you know, election days, i think, are very special events and i think every politician deals with them sort of differently. >> it is all about your psyche and your psychology. you heard him say, he has butterflies in his stomach, john avalon, t
he's here with me and the state capital of columbus. john avalon, senior political columnist with "newsweek", the daily beast. rayhan salaam and gloria borger. first we're going to tackle the smarts or not of election day behavior for both men and then we'll tackle when we're going to know and who tonight. that's the gig. and the winner gets a million dollars or mitt romney bet 10,000 in something. governor strickland, today, the decision of mitt romney to go out. he's the challenger....
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this summer ohio's republican chair sent a controversial e-mail to the columbus dispatch newspaper. doug price wrote i guess i really actually feel we shouldn't con tort the voting process to accommodate the urban voter turnout machine. let's be fair and reasonable. price joins me now, along with dave haus, democratic chair for franklin county. right there, look at that camera, guys. do you stand by that remark? do you stand by -- >> number one, it was taken out of context in part and completely misquoted many times. con tort is the right word. i don't think we should con tort the system, twist the system to support any group, any group of voters. secondly, i will point out we have the most liberal voting -- early voting process, more than new york, connecticut, a lot of east coast, democratic states. and i'm for that. and we have voted for it consistent. >> you do a quote like that where you are saying we shouldn't do it for -- >> for anybody. >> you said for african-americans. >> in context, we should not con tort the system for any, we should not twist it. >> how is the system be
this summer ohio's republican chair sent a controversial e-mail to the columbus dispatch newspaper. doug price wrote i guess i really actually feel we shouldn't con tort the voting process to accommodate the urban voter turnout machine. let's be fair and reasonable. price joins me now, along with dave haus, democratic chair for franklin county. right there, look at that camera, guys. do you stand by that remark? do you stand by -- >> number one, it was taken out of context in part and...
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in places like columbus and cleveland and akron. it's an impediment to voting, and it is on purpose. here's another one not on purpose. "the new york times" reporting in ohio the stronghold of ohio county which includes clevelands had more people vote early every day this year than in 2008, until monday. what happened monday? hurricane sandy. the day of the storm when the daily tally began to lack from the levels of four years ago. so barriers to voting this year are in some cases acts of god. sometimes they are also acts of man. like republican state election officials woshlging to make voting more difficult and less available. in either case, ohio hangs in the balance, as does the election. joining us now is steve kornacky. steve, it's good to see you and sit next to you at this awkward angle. >> very awkward. >> i'll give you the side eye while we discuss this. ohio is facing a double whammy in terms of voting rights. ohio is always important. it feels more important than in recent elections. we have john husted doing everything
in places like columbus and cleveland and akron. it's an impediment to voting, and it is on purpose. here's another one not on purpose. "the new york times" reporting in ohio the stronghold of ohio county which includes clevelands had more people vote early every day this year than in 2008, until monday. what happened monday? hurricane sandy. the day of the storm when the daily tally began to lack from the levels of four years ago. so barriers to voting this year are in some cases...
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ohio, we have been ahead even or ahead in virtually every one, the latest came out this morning in the columbus dispatch. one thing that is clear, we have a very, very large lead among voters who have voted early. we are going to go into election day with a significant lead. and so, you know, we -- they can spin it any way they want. i am looking at cold, hard data, who is showing up, who is casting ballots and in states like ohio, iowa, nevada, florida, we are doing very, very well. what they are doing is comparing this to 2008 and you and i have thish this discussion, i am not suggesting we will win by the same margin of 2008. they are comparing themselves to john mccain with no ground operation in many of these states. so they will do better than mechanic cane did. we may not do as well as we did in 2008, but we are doing well enough to win this race. >> chris: in florida, where president obama is down by more than a point in the polls. and yet, you are advertising by the campaign there, in florida. why not in the state you must win? >> first of all, we feel very competitive in the state of
ohio, we have been ahead even or ahead in virtually every one, the latest came out this morning in the columbus dispatch. one thing that is clear, we have a very, very large lead among voters who have voted early. we are going to go into election day with a significant lead. and so, you know, we -- they can spin it any way they want. i am looking at cold, hard data, who is showing up, who is casting ballots and in states like ohio, iowa, nevada, florida, we are doing very, very well. what they...
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so the connection to columbus was the idea that there was perhaps some way columbus knew about the vikings sailed here. there was a map that was proved 0 to be a fraud that was something columbus had. so there is no evidence that columbus knew about the vikings or their root to north america, and he certainly came entirely different way. certainly didn't follow the vikings' course. brendan and the sailing the irish -- much more in the realm of legend. there is no evidence to justify that. it really does sit more in the realm of the old wife's tale. >> host: kenneth, in your most recent, don't know much about american presidents, 600 pages or so you give grades to each of the presidents. are those your assessments? >> guest: they are my assessments after what i did was study the views of presidents by historians and academics from the very first one back in he 1960s, up until very recently with such things that's wall street journal and c-span is very excellent surveys of presidential schorl -- scholars. so i tried to map how the presidents had been viewed throughout history. bring to bear
so the connection to columbus was the idea that there was perhaps some way columbus knew about the vikings sailed here. there was a map that was proved 0 to be a fraud that was something columbus had. so there is no evidence that columbus knew about the vikings or their root to north america, and he certainly came entirely different way. certainly didn't follow the vikings' course. brendan and the sailing the irish -- much more in the realm of legend. there is no evidence to justify that. it...
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if you look at every poll in ohio we have been ahead with the latest out this morning in columbus, dispatch. what is clear, we have a very, very large lead among voter whose have voted early and we will go in election day with a significant lead. they can spin it out they want. i am looking at hold card data, who is casting ballots in states like ohio, iowa, nevada, florida. we are doing very well. they are comparing this to 2008 and we have had this discussion. i'm not suggest we will win by the same margin of 2008 and they compare themselves to john mc cain would had no ground operation in these states. they will do better than john mccain. we may not do as well as we did in 2008 but we doing plenty well and well enough to win the race. >>chris: on florida, president obama is down by more than a point in the polls but you make the final advertising by the campaign there in florida, why not in the state you must win? >> we feel very competitive in the state of florida. there have been many polls and in all of the polls, the battleground state polls in the last 48 hours we are ahead in 90 p
if you look at every poll in ohio we have been ahead with the latest out this morning in columbus, dispatch. what is clear, we have a very, very large lead among voter whose have voted early and we will go in election day with a significant lead. they can spin it out they want. i am looking at hold card data, who is casting ballots in states like ohio, iowa, nevada, florida. we are doing very well. they are comparing this to 2008 and we have had this discussion. i'm not suggest we will win by...
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we have spoken to people in madison, wisconsin, columbus, ohio, freeport, illinois, newton, iowa, denver, colorado, miami, florida, we have been every of where. americans everywhere feel the pulse of this country, we can do better. this is an election about the hard working people that i have e met all over this country. so tomorrow we can take a right turn and go back to the policies that hurt the middle class or continue down the path of progress with president obama. i ask you to do one thing tomorrow. get out and vote. that's "the ed show." the "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening. i'm look forward to being here with you all tomorrow night. it's going to be great. thanks for staying with us for the next hour. four years ago tonight, it was actually the night after the '08 presidential election. we voted november 4th. we vote november 6th this time. so november 5th was the night after barack obama had just walloped john mccain in that year's presidential election. you remember the electoral college map. the total 365 electoral votes for obam
we have spoken to people in madison, wisconsin, columbus, ohio, freeport, illinois, newton, iowa, denver, colorado, miami, florida, we have been every of where. americans everywhere feel the pulse of this country, we can do better. this is an election about the hard working people that i have e met all over this country. so tomorrow we can take a right turn and go back to the policies that hurt the middle class or continue down the path of progress with president obama. i ask you to do one...
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from columbus, ohio, this is mike huckabee. until next week, good night and captioned by closed captioning services, inc. you walk into conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. we have so much technology in our store to really show the customers what's going on with their bodies. this is your body there. you can see a little more pressure in the shoulders and in the hips. ... now you can feel what happens as we raise your sleep number setting and allow the bed to contour to your individual shape. oh, wow. that feels really good. at sleep numr we've created a collection of innovations dedicated to individualizing your comfort. the sleep number collection, designed around the innovative sleep number bed - a bed with dualair technology that allows you to adjust to the exact comfort your body needs. each of your bodies. so whatever you feel like, sleep number's going to provide it for you. during our semi-annual sleep sale, save $500 on our classic series special edition bed set-but only while supplies last. sale end
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number one, secretary of state john houston in columbus would tell you that there is 220,000 fewer he democratic votes in early voting and 30,000 more republican votes. that means there is a 250,000 vote flip which is the margin by which obama won ohio in 2008. secondly, ohio is a republican state. 20 of the last 24 years we had republican governors. the legislature is overwhelmingly republican. every elected member of the supreme court of ohio is republican. 75% of elected officials in 88 counties are republicans. and thirdly, by independent voting measures, 10% to 15% of independent voters in ohio are going to vote for mitt romney. and also the catholic church when i go to saint sin vent in kenwood in since is national the minister is telling us vote for religious freedom. vote for the biblical definition of marriage. vote for life. there is half a million catholics energized in south, ohio, to pull the lever for mitt romney. mitt romney will win, ohio, and is going to win ohio easily. >> sean: wisconsin? >> wisconsin will go for romney because what walker did and what ryan did made
number one, secretary of state john houston in columbus would tell you that there is 220,000 fewer he democratic votes in early voting and 30,000 more republican votes. that means there is a 250,000 vote flip which is the margin by which obama won ohio in 2008. secondly, ohio is a republican state. 20 of the last 24 years we had republican governors. the legislature is overwhelmingly republican. every elected member of the supreme court of ohio is republican. 75% of elected officials in 88...
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bill: 9:35 in new york. 9:35 in columbus, ohio, that is franklin county. a live look at the polling lines that are open. we'll check in a moment with mike to be inch and see how the voting is going there. before we go there on the board behind me i want to show you right now what to look for later tonight in ohio. there are a couple of keys you can examine in 2008, a state that went blue for president obama. how did he win ohio? you can key in-cities. new hampshire i will ton county, cincinnati. franklin county, columbus. cuyahoga county, cleveland, that area went blue as well. that was from 2008. what is going to happen this year? later tonight when we get our results we will start to see everything tick in from time after time, red and blue, red and blue throughout these counties including franklin county, which is where the capitol city is located. mike tobin is there as well. i want to check in with him live. good morning, mike. >> good morning, bill. off and running here in the state that many feel could be the decider. the voters were packed outside
bill: 9:35 in new york. 9:35 in columbus, ohio, that is franklin county. a live look at the polling lines that are open. we'll check in a moment with mike to be inch and see how the voting is going there. before we go there on the board behind me i want to show you right now what to look for later tonight in ohio. there are a couple of keys you can examine in 2008, a state that went blue for president obama. how did he win ohio? you can key in-cities. new hampshire i will ton county,...
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is will be strong we are the northern virginia voters which exist in the cincinnati, cleveland and columbus suburbs. >> rose: okay, that's one of the things you'll be watching tomorrow night. what else? virginia early. that will be early. what else? al, let me go down to washington. what are you looking for tomorrowveni wheou sit down and not only broadcast or cable cast but you're also looking for signs. what signs are you looking at? what interests you? >> charlie a couple things. first before anything is florida. if obama wins florida-- and i agree with the consensus here that it tilts to romney-- if obama wins florida it's game, set, match. the other guy can't win. but apart from that i want to look at first of all -- i want to look at this profile. i want to see what the latino vote is, how big it is. i want to see how the youth vote compares to last time. my guess is some issues we thought would be big a couple months ago like medicare haven't been big at all and i want to see again mark mentioned those places earlier. ohio is a fascinating place because it's so diverse. and the valle
is will be strong we are the northern virginia voters which exist in the cincinnati, cleveland and columbus suburbs. >> rose: okay, that's one of the things you'll be watching tomorrow night. what else? virginia early. that will be early. what else? al, let me go down to washington. what are you looking for tomorrowveni wheou sit down and not only broadcast or cable cast but you're also looking for signs. what signs are you looking at? what interests you? >> charlie a couple things....
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steve brown is in columbus this afternoon. steve, when ohio starts reporting their numbers, those will be early votes, favoring the president. do we have a sense of how much an edge he has from the early voting numbers? >>guest: analysis of the early voting is by the counties in which they were cast. you do not register as a democrat or a republican in this state so they do not have a good handle on can democrats or republicans early voted. but the former g.o.p. chairman in ohio looked at the distribution and he likes what he sees in terms of, perhaps, good news for governor romney. have a listen. >> if you look at the early vote in the counties that obama won in 2008, early vote is up 3 percent. if you look at the early vote town out in counties that were won by john mccain in 2008, it is up 14 percent. that is an advantage for governor romney. >> but he and other republicans in the state say definitely obama will start the night off with a lead when ohio starts reporting. >>shepard: we can get a sense of ohio in the early go
steve brown is in columbus this afternoon. steve, when ohio starts reporting their numbers, those will be early votes, favoring the president. do we have a sense of how much an edge he has from the early voting numbers? >>guest: analysis of the early voting is by the counties in which they were cast. you do not register as a democrat or a republican in this state so they do not have a good handle on can democrats or republicans early voted. but the former g.o.p. chairman in ohio looked at...
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. >> great to be with you from columbus, ohio. i know you have a big show out of ohio . so many believe that the fate of president obama and mitt romney hinges on that state . what are you hearing about the mood of the electorate. >> i think in the south it is tight as a tick on a dog which means it is very, very razor close. i do sense there is eye -- an momentum for mitt romney. there is energy on the part of the romney voters and you can see it when the crowds and voters and i don't see that barack obama. he his the union voterss and younger voters. but i don't see the enthusiasm and nothing like what that sort of the remarkable energy four years ago for him. >> the polls continuing and showing a tight race. and at this point, we are not seeing the president at 50 percent and when an uncumbent is not at 50 independents usually break away from the challenger in the final days of the campaign. >> that's the conventional wisdom in politicings. undecided voters break for the challenger because they know who the incumbent is. my goodness. they have seen him for four years.
. >> great to be with you from columbus, ohio. i know you have a big show out of ohio . so many believe that the fate of president obama and mitt romney hinges on that state . what are you hearing about the mood of the electorate. >> i think in the south it is tight as a tick on a dog which means it is very, very razor close. i do sense there is eye -- an momentum for mitt romney. there is energy on the part of the romney voters and you can see it when the crowds and voters and i...
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columbus thought, that's unusual. columbus then goes on to write that this gate made me realize that the water is coming from a very high place and i began to think that the world is not spherical, the pear-shaped. i stopped right there and i said, wait a minute, they told us that columbus proved the world is round and here he is in his own words say in the is pear-shaped, he then goes onto say, this high point on the earth, where the water comes down is like a woman's, highest and closest to heaven. they didn't tell me that in seventh grade. i'm sure i would've taken notes. but perhaps when you read history or geography and you get it in the sense of the people who've lived through it and this is one of the thing i do in my book is to include these historic voices, american voices, voices of geography, races of the president. it becomes alive, human can a meaningful. it's not just that long list of speeches. indeed, columbus started an era of discovery and exploration that transformed the whole world. it's difficult
columbus thought, that's unusual. columbus then goes on to write that this gate made me realize that the water is coming from a very high place and i began to think that the world is not spherical, the pear-shaped. i stopped right there and i said, wait a minute, they told us that columbus proved the world is round and here he is in his own words say in the is pear-shaped, he then goes onto say, this high point on the earth, where the water comes down is like a woman's, highest and closest to...
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he's holding rallies in madison, wisconsin, and columbus, ohio and des moines, iowa. governor romney has devents in florida, lynchburg and fairfax virginia, in columbus, ohio, and in manchester, new hampshire. wouldn't be a presidential election without some kind of legal snafu in the state of florida. the state's democratic party is now suing to extend early voting hours with voters reporting lines of up to seven hours long at some south florida polling stations. we have cnn reporters all across all of the battleground states this morning to cover this race that appears to be headed for a photo finish. john berman's been following that for us. >> let's start in a state many think will decide this election, ohio. president obama and mitt romney, as you said, both hold rallies there today. the latest cnn/orc poll, has the president with a three-point lead in the buckeye state. cnn's martin savidge is live in cleveland for us this morning. hey, martin. >> good morning, john. let's talk about early voting. because they have been early voting in the state of ohio since oc
he's holding rallies in madison, wisconsin, and columbus, ohio and des moines, iowa. governor romney has devents in florida, lynchburg and fairfax virginia, in columbus, ohio, and in manchester, new hampshire. wouldn't be a presidential election without some kind of legal snafu in the state of florida. the state's democratic party is now suing to extend early voting hours with voters reporting lines of up to seven hours long at some south florida polling stations. we have cnn reporters all...